Dec 13 2007

And here’s two words for guiliani supporters “drag queen”

Posted by: Pete in Life

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1. Pete says:
   December 13th, 2007 at 1:49 am

   I know it’s kind of different because Ron Paul is not screaming and Rudy really is being a drag queen(not the first time) but I figured hey, why not?

2. Dave says:
   December 13th, 2007 at 7:05 am

   Maybe that fixed it. Documented bug in Wordpress…

3. John says:
   December 13th, 2007 at 10:26 pm

   Hi Fellers, Who do you you think was a reasonably good President from the present going into the past? In our lifetime and before. 10 being relatively the best and 1 being relatively the worst. Here is mine to start it off:
   GWB=-1, WJC=5, GHWB=2, RWR=1, JEC=3, GRF=2, RMN=1, LBJ=3, JFK=7, DDE=6, HFT=6, FDR=11, HH=1.
   I know you guys will have different opinions and I’m interested.

4. Dave says:
   December 14th, 2007 at 9:24 am

   Hi John,

   I had no political awareness until recent years, so I can’t form the opinions you’re looking for. I never questioned any other president during my lifetime; just kind of accepted them with blind trust. I didn’t want Bush, I know that.

   If I were to study the presidencies, I would rate low any president who seemed to pursue a personal agenda, or acted on behalf of a special interest group, to the detriment of the country as a whole. I would rate low any president who was deceitful. I don’t think I would rate against making mistakes, though.

   For example, in hindsight, I’d be tempted to knock the president who sat when prohibition was introduced (Hoover?) because I believe it was strongly motivated by morality, and ultimately built huge crime empires - but if 3/4 of the states ratified it, I don’t think I can hold the President personally accountable. On the other hand, something like Wilson and creation of the Federal Reserve, although the ratification was announced, there’s research that disputes that the 16th amendment was ever legally ratified, so Wilson would have to get a low score if he committed a crime. (Consider: The Law That Never Was - http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=17398). Many historians give Wilson a high ranking, though.

   By what criteria do you assign your evaluations?

   Stealing from Wikipedia on this topic, [Historian Alan Brinkley said: "There are presidents who could be considered both failures and great or near great (for example, Nixon)". James MacGregor Burns observed of Nixon, 'How can one evaluate such an idiosyncratic president, so brilliant and so morally lacking?'"]

   More about ranking presidents:
   http://writ.news.findlaw.com/scripts/printer_friendly.pl?page=/dean/20010511.html

5. John says:
   December 18th, 2007 at 2:23 am

   I’ve got to re-frame this question into something more simple.
   Historically speaking, who has looked after the common man’s (middle class) values more.
   Liberals or Conservatives? Hint: Look up 40 hour work week, child labor, voting rights, etc..
   Please look up The New Deal also. It was very important and shaped our lives until the 1980’s.
   That’s in our lifetime. It is very important to know about this. Reagan was the opposite of the New Deal policies and that is why our country has been in this condition right up until now. Listen to some FDR speeches on youtube. He is saying things that can be true today. And without Privatization. Wow! What a concept.

6. Dave says:
   December 18th, 2007 at 7:46 pm

   Hey John, thanks for your thoughts. Honestly, I don’t think I’m connecting with you. I don’t see the current political landscape in these terms, really. In the last eight years, we’ve had unprecedented expansion of the Executive branch. We’ve alienated much of the world through aggressive foreign policies, we’ve broken treaties and lowered ourselves to legalizing barbarism.

   By a landslide victory, the people voiced their opinions, made a loud noise, and elected a Democratic congress to stop this madness and help the country climb back up that very slippery slope it had descended. Unfortunately, the Democratic saviors did very little to restore sanity, and instead created a good number of disaffected Democrats.

   It’s still a two party system, but not the two that people are familiar with. It’s the Democratic-Republicans who are backed by special and corporate interests versus the free people now (that’s you and me). How bad has it gotten? Can you trust the media to be impartial? Can you trust the integrity of the voting system? Are government leaders on special interest payrolls?

   Did you know the FCC lifted a restriction today that will allow Broadcasters to also own Newspapers, where before they were prohibited from this? I didn’t hear a thing about it on FOX news’ top headlines, though. Tracking Ron Paul and being frustrated by the media’s billing of Hillary flying around Iowa in a helicopter (which they’re calling a Hilli-Copter) in lieu of the amazing and significant recent fund raising milestone of Paul’s campaign, I can’t help but think that this is a bad thing. A very bad thing.

   Who has the vision and the nerve to fix these things?

7. John says:
   December 20th, 2007 at 8:42 pm

   Hi Dave. The first paragraph you wrote is preaching to the choir. I agree in spades. Well said. But don’t you think I Know that. In the last eight years up until January 07 who was in control of all three branches?
   I understand that the Democratic landslide in the house did not produce the desired effects that we might have wished. There must be something deeper at play, however. While I agree in wonderment that the Dems
   have a majority yet don’t seem to have a spine - how mean-spirited their opposition party ‘the republicans’
   are to filibuster all legislation. To cause a gridlock and intimidate their opposition party. That is far worse that being weak-kneed. Bullies are Worse.

   Third Paragraph. Choir again.

   Fourth. Yes I know. I’m a news junkie. But why are you watching Fox Noise anyway? And I don’t trust most media without personal research. Hillary is a lightening post and I don’t support her either as probably most Democrats or Progressives don’t.

   Democratic Saviors? Aren’t you looking for a savior by that last line in your post? Let me guess…Ron Paul?

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