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clevermonkey blog » HAGAN FOR SENATE

Kay HaganHey North Carolinians, Kay Hagan is running for Senate against Elizabeth Dole. Hagan is a five term

Senator in the North Carolina Senate and I recommend that you check her out.

Her platform underscores fighting illegal immigration and fiscal responsibility. :)

http://www.kayhagan.com/

11 Responses to “HAGAN FOR SENATE”
  1. John says:

    Good natured “Braying” welcome…

  2. Mr. Nibbles says:

    “Education is a cornerstone of North Carolina’s economy and way of life, and our future depends on how we educate Dave”.
    http://www.kayhagan.com/issues

  3. John says:

    I agree Mr. Nibblet, But how do you educate those who don’t believe in a Department of Education?

  4. Dave says:

    Easy. Begin by pointing out that lack of a federally controlled and mandated Department of Education doesn’t mean ‘Lack of Education’.

    Mr. Nibbles, I’m hoping that a comma after ‘educate’ in your comment is implied.

    John, Kay seems like a nice lady. She’s even got a law degree and a husband named Chip.

  5. John says:

    So if there’s a problem, with our Education system, your first question is not, “How can government solve this problem,” but “What government program must be eliminated to improve this situation?”
    Am I following the Libertarian train of thought correctly?
    There must be some Libertopian list that exists somewhere that excludes most, if not all, social programs:
    Medicare, Medicaid, Social Security, Unemployment Insurance, Disability Insurance, Food Stamps etc..
    It seems that it’s a cruel world that Libertarians envision. Imagining that people can, and should, lift themselves up by there own bootstraps. That “Government” will always ultimately fail them in the end.
    This was Ronald Reagan’s Mantra from 28 years ago and it is still duping average Americans today.
    “Government Doesn’t Work”…WTF! Then WHY have one?! The point is that it is SUPPOSED to work.

    I’m never lazy about writing my Senators or Congressmen about issues I care about including Net Neutrality
    and the like even if I realize my little voice may not matter that much in the end. Because I still believe in our system of checks and balances. So do you, obviously, in light of your passionate responses. In the end, it’s all we got. Give up or try at the expense of being laughed at as being naive to the powers that be.

    You are so intellectual, Dave, that I find it hard to believe you are falling for this crap.
    Why don’t you extricate your own ostrich-like head from from your self-imposed Libertarian sandbox? :P

    But I like you anyway, my friend, and don’t take anything I say too seriously because I am fallible also.

  6. Mr. Nibbles says:

    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1588971474225991452&q=death&ei=uB9BSNm1H5Se_AGOr7zqCA

  7. John says:

    Thanks for the “Cheer-Up” video, Frank! I feel better now. Gonna’ go drive through a tunnel. :)

  8. Pete says:

    wow people drive like shit all around the world

  9. John says:

    You should know, Dumb-Ass!

  10. Mr. Nibbles says:

    Dave,
    “,”
    .

  11. Dave says:

    Hey John, thanks for the response. I encourage you to avoid labels if you can help it. I’m not a ‘Libertarian’, or at least I don’t think so. I used to think of myself as a Democrat, but that was before I really understood that today’s Democrat is really a Socialist. Democracy is two Wolves and a Sheep deciding what to have for dinner :) There’s nothing for me in the Republican party, either.

    The reason that I find a home among the ‘Paultards’ is that I dig the Constitution. You’ve always known me to be a rule-quoter, even back in Dungeons and Dragons days (or perhaps because of them) and that pretty much speaks to the extent of my political philosophy: If the Constitution doesn’t specifically grant the Federal Government an authority then it should be a right of the state.

    The Tenth Amendment: “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

    If you agree that the Constitution is the Law of the United States, then whether you like it or not, and however well-meaning, Federal powers that are not specifically outlined and authorized by the Constitution are, in effect, unconstitutional. It’s not about whether these ideals are worthy or just or fair or even necessary. It’s about whether they’re legal, and they’re just not.

    If you want to argue in defense of the Department of Education, for example, and specifically “No Child Left Behind” then I’d ask that you illustrate how the Constitution authorizes such a thing or demonstrate how the Tenth Amendment doesn’t apply.

    I know that you think highly of FDR, but are you aware of how much he fought the Judicial Branch for much of the New Deal? The courts struck down so much of what he proposed that he was pressing for a congressional bill to pad the number of Judges in order to force his will. Well meaning as he was, much that came out of his administration is not provided for in the Constitution. I’m not saying it’s not good or right or any value judgment - what I’m saying is that if it truly is worthwhile, then the Constitution should be amended in the appropriate way to make it legal since provision for that exists.

    Another thing I’d underscore is that when I’m arguing against Government involvement in things, I mean Federal Government and I think I try to be careful to say that. If I slipped, apologies. I feel that Government can play a role in education, and perhaps in many other things, but I would rather see that at the State level. In Virginia, as you know, Radar Detectors are illegal and speeding fines are hugely expensive. Would it be fair for the Federal Government to enforce a policy in support or contradiction of this that applies to the country as a whole? They’ve done this for the use of Marijuana and several states are fighting these policies. Do you feel they’re in the wrong to do so?

    When you ask about the role of government in education, my response would probably be neither of those. I know you’re aware that we home school, and you know that we do so very successfully. We both know there are some, maybe even many, who (think they) “home school” and damage their children by their own ignorance and incompetence. Would you have the State Government take away my right to home school for the good of the children of the Moron? If so, I would move. Would you have the Federal Government take away my right? What if I didn’t agree with the curriculum? What if music were struck from a mandated curriculum entirely, or art? These questions are important to me, because these are very real issues.

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